The Human Loop: How AI Can Transform Instructional Design with Nathalie Doremieux

Published on 8 June 2025 at 08:00

The landscape of e-learning is rapidly evolving, and instructional designers must adapt to stay relevant. In a recent episode of the Designing with Love podcast, Jackie had the pleasure of interviewing Nathalie Doremieux, co-founder of Podcast Lead Flow, who shared invaluable insights about creating effective online learning experiences and leveraging AI as a powerful tool in instructional design.

 

Nathalie's journey from software engineer to program design expert highlights an important truth: technical skill alone doesn't create successful learning experiences. After years of building platforms that weren't getting results, she shifted her focus to what really matters – designing programs that people actually complete and benefit from. The statistics are sobering: only 3-5% of people typically complete online courses. This isn't just a completion problem; it's a design problem.

 

One of the most significant challenges in instructional design is managing content overload. Subject matter experts often believe more content equals more value, but Nathalie emphasizes that "people don't want more, they want results." Effective instructional designers must help experts distill their knowledge into digestible, actionable components. This requires understanding where learners get stuck and addressing those specific pain points rather than adding more material.

 

Automation and AI represent powerful opportunities in instructional design, but only when implemented strategically. As Nathalie put it, "You automate so that you have more time to have the human connection." The goal isn't to replace human interaction but to enhance it by removing repetitive tasks that don't require expertise. This creates space for more meaningful engagement with learners.

 

AI tools are particularly valuable when they serve as accelerators rather than replacements. The "human in the loop" approach ensures AI enhances rather than diminishes the learning experience. AI can help create interactive role-play scenarios, provide personalized feedback, and assist with content creation – but always with human oversight. Nathalie warns against getting "carried away" with AI implementation, emphasizing that technology should address specific learning challenges rather than being added for novelty.

 

Understanding diverse learning styles is crucial for creating effective instructional design. Different audiences have different needs – a busy executive might prefer concise content they can fit into their schedule, while younger learners might respond better to gamification elements. Good instructional designers adapt their approach based on audience preferences for visual, auditory, or kinesthetic learning.

 

The conversation also highlighted the importance of continuous learning for instructional designers themselves. Trends and technologies evolve rapidly, and staying current is essential for delivering value. This doesn't mean chasing every new tool, but rather maintaining awareness of what works and how it might benefit learners.

 

Perhaps the most valuable insight from the discussion was the reminder that the learner should always be at the center of instructional design. The ultimate measure of success isn't completion rates or engagement metrics – it's whether learners achieve their desired results. This learner-centric approach guides every decision, from content selection to delivery method to assessment strategy.

 

For instructional designers looking to enhance their practice, Nathalie's advice is clear: focus on results, understand your audience, use technology strategically, and continuously adapt your approach. By keeping these principles in mind, designers can create learning experiences that truly transform lives rather than simply transmitting information.

 

🔗Website and Social Links

Please visit Nathalie's website and social media links below.

The Membership Lab Website

Nathalie's Facebook Page

Nathalie's LinkedIn Page

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